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they want medicare. they're basically we want to take the greatest historic achievement of lyndon johnson fdr, we want to you sign off on changing them fundamentally. it's not just a question about numbers. the method, the route by which they get there makes all the difference. this is a lot of what they're fighting about. >> eliot: i think this is exactly right. the numbers do mask philosophical differences, and the they agree upon but the way you agree on those numerical objectives when we come back, the fiscal cliff and other idea that have not been put on the table. but when joint pain and stiffness from psoriatic arthritis hit even the smallest things became difficult. i finally understood what serious joint pain is like. i talked to my rheumatologist and he prescribed enbrel. enbrel can help relieve pain, stiffness, and stop joint damage. because enbrel, etanercept suppresses your immune system, it may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal events including infections tube
they want medicare. they're basically we want to take the greatest historic achievement of lyndon johnson fdr, we want to you sign off on changing them fundamentally. it's not just a question about numbers. the method, the route by which they get there makes all the difference. this is a lot of what they're fighting about. >> eliot: i think this is exactly right. the numbers do mask philosophical differences, and the they agree upon but the way you agree on those numerical objectives when...
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cut medicare and social security, what's the rush? senator bernie sanders every time we have him on, howard dean. first of all as we've said over and over, we hate the term entitlements because you are entitled to it. you have paid into it. number one. and number two it is not in crisis. bernie sanders speaks about this all the time. this is the problem they try to panic us. michael with some of the fun facts. we posted this. let me share a couple. that's why shows like "meet the press" made my head explode because they start with this premise. [ explosion ] >> we're not all in agreement on that. >> stephanie: he says that because economic projections -- because economic projections for a year or two from now let alone 20 to 70 years it is best to resist being pressured to act on entitlements. bush tried this. it is a crisis. [ screaming ] we have to privatize it now! >> yeah. because the market will take care of it. you'll see. by take care, i mean destroy. >> stephanie: social security adds what to the deficit? >> zip. zero. >> nada
cut medicare and social security, what's the rush? senator bernie sanders every time we have him on, howard dean. first of all as we've said over and over, we hate the term entitlements because you are entitled to it. you have paid into it. number one. and number two it is not in crisis. bernie sanders speaks about this all the time. this is the problem they try to panic us. michael with some of the fun facts. we posted this. let me share a couple. that's why shows like "meet the...
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the debt will fall social security and medicare will go on unharmed, and we'll go back to tax rates that work better than the current ones. many made a public plea to george w. bush not to enact these tax cuts. they said it would woesen the budget deficit decrease quality, and fail to produce economic growth. well what happened? [ bell chimes ] >> stephanie: exactly that. [ ♪ patriotic music ♪ ] >> stephanie: since then the budget deficit has ballooned, the economy has spiraled into the greatest decline since the great depression history has proved that 450 economists were exactly correct. this could push the american economy off of a fiscal cliff, am i missing something here? can it be such a bad thing. not really said the cbo. if congress extents current policy, the debt and deficit will increase slowing the economy and dramatically increasing interest costs. because of the deal congress and the president made last year it be result in across the board budget reductions, still there will be no decreases in social security, medicare and veteran's benefits. defense spending would tak
the debt will fall social security and medicare will go on unharmed, and we'll go back to tax rates that work better than the current ones. many made a public plea to george w. bush not to enact these tax cuts. they said it would woesen the budget deficit decrease quality, and fail to produce economic growth. well what happened? [ bell chimes ] >> stephanie: exactly that. [ ♪ patriotic music ♪ ] >> stephanie: since then the budget deficit has ballooned, the economy has spiraled...
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in return, he is offering 600 worth of cuts to medicare and other programs. we will be right back. alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. [ music ] >> broadcasting across the nation, on your radio, and on current tv this is "the bill press show". >> all right. 29 days to go before we go over the cliff. put your parachute on. i think we are going over. hello, everybody. what do you say? good monday morning, great to see you. this is the full court press. we are coming to you alivelive on your local progressive. you can watch and join us. what we love is hearing from you. hearing you sound off on the issues of the day, various ways to do so
in return, he is offering 600 worth of cuts to medicare and other programs. we will be right back. alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that...
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this is not a medicare problem. it's because our health care system is dysfunctional, and prices are too high and costs are out of control because companies make money by jacking up prices and not allowing us to negotiate. >> >> stephanie: right. and an increase in all costs, higher out of pocket health care costs, and the cbo projected an increase in the number of uninsured, and that possibility becomes more real with states like texas saying they are not going to accept the medicaid expansion. >> medicare is more efficient than private insurance. they are more satisfied with their medicare coverage. the networks are broader, and -- there is study after study and research after research to show how medicare is leading the way in innovation with ways to pay our doctors and healthcare providers more efficiently. there is so much good coming out of medicare and the fact that they want to strip it on principal, and really it's a matter of trying to dump this money into the private insurance market, and make more money
this is not a medicare problem. it's because our health care system is dysfunctional, and prices are too high and costs are out of control because companies make money by jacking up prices and not allowing us to negotiate. >> >> stephanie: right. and an increase in all costs, higher out of pocket health care costs, and the cbo projected an increase in the number of uninsured, and that possibility becomes more real with states like texas saying they are not going to accept the...
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we can't afford to sut back on essential programs like social security, like medicaid medicare. we have to be very careful how we do that. and not cut the safety knelt. we have 2 million people that are going to go off unemployment insurance. that will devastate our local economy. >> at the end of the year. >> yes. something has to be done. >> putting things in reference basically? and you hear the word certainty all the time. right? talk about uncertainty for american businesses? right? >> unnecessary. it's unnecessary. i think people around the world, around the globe are looking at us for some leadership and resolution here now isn't the time. we are past the election season. let's get to work now. >> that's what the president wants to do. >> that's what the american public wants him to do as well. >> that's why he is going out today speaking in detroit to talk to workers. ible auto workers today. >> yeah. at the dangler detroit diesel detroit plant, he will be there this afternoon. secretary hilda solis in studio with us. your calls your comments welcome with those encouragi
we can't afford to sut back on essential programs like social security, like medicaid medicare. we have to be very careful how we do that. and not cut the safety knelt. we have 2 million people that are going to go off unemployment insurance. that will devastate our local economy. >> at the end of the year. >> yes. something has to be done. >> putting things in reference basically? and you hear the word certainty all the time. right? talk about uncertainty for american...
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they know there is going to reform to social security and medicare, they want to know so they know how to plan for their companies. i hope it's resolved before i get there if not so be it, i see this as an opportunity for america to lead the way. china is slowing down. india is slowing down. europe is in a recession. south america is slowing down. we have an opportunity to lead out of this mess. i hope we take the lead. >> jennifer: everyone wants to prevent going over over the cliff you still will have a lot of issues on how best to lead the country forward. allen west will be gone but there will be tea partyers remain. how do you work with people who think compromise is a bad word? >> look, i was just earlier with the republican part of my district today and met with a lot of republican commissioners. the message i told them is what i told everybody. whether you're a republican, democrat, i have an open door. i want to hear your thoughts, your concerns and i want to be your voice in washington, d.c. i plan to represent 100% of this district and being a passionate voice for everybody.
they know there is going to reform to social security and medicare, they want to know so they know how to plan for their companies. i hope it's resolved before i get there if not so be it, i see this as an opportunity for america to lead the way. china is slowing down. india is slowing down. europe is in a recession. south america is slowing down. we have an opportunity to lead out of this mess. i hope we take the lead. >> jennifer: everyone wants to prevent going over over the cliff you...
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you don't have to participate in medicare, social security, and that's how we cut entitlements. >> we should have turned over social security to the free market like bush wanted to do. >> geez, idiots. >> stephanie: oh boy. not since the ceo of goldman sachs said we can't afford these entitlements anymore has something so irritated me. bill crystal. >> we can say president obama is overreaching. at the end of the day he is selling a very simple message, i want to keep taxes low for middle class americans, and republicans are in the position of looking like they don't care about the middle class. >> stephanie: that would be horrible if people had some sort of impression like that? that would be horrible. >> god! >> stephanie: that would be crazy -- [ cuckoo clock chimes ] >> where do they get this. >> stephanie: oh really? sarah palin? >> yeah. she keeps showing up. >> barack obama is a socialist. he believes in socialism in redistributing health in confiscating hard-earned dollars of our small businessmen and women so they cannot reinvest their dollars and hire more people and expand.
you don't have to participate in medicare, social security, and that's how we cut entitlements. >> we should have turned over social security to the free market like bush wanted to do. >> geez, idiots. >> stephanie: oh boy. not since the ceo of goldman sachs said we can't afford these entitlements anymore has something so irritated me. bill crystal. >> we can say president obama is overreaching. at the end of the day he is selling a very simple message, i want to keep...
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we don't have a medicare problem. we have a healthcare cost problem. there is no competition in the healthcare market place right now. >> stephanie: right. >> okay. and people make money in the healthcare industry when prices go up. >> right. >> corporations make money when prices go up. we're talking about medical device manufacturers, drug companies, health insurance companies, they all make money the higher the prices are. they have no incentive to work for the public good. their incent sieve to make money for shareholders. higher prices in the healthcare market in general are a good thing for them. >> stephanie: right. you were pointing out we're forced -- because the baseline is fraudulently high. >> you hear a lot that medicare underpays. it is not that medicare underpays, it is that we have this faulty baseline that's too high. medicare's rates are actually reasonable but we've created this fake market place where the baseline is so expensive that we, as a nation, are overpaying and we don't negotiate the way other countries do. so we're essenti
we don't have a medicare problem. we have a healthcare cost problem. there is no competition in the healthcare market place right now. >> stephanie: right. >> okay. and people make money in the healthcare industry when prices go up. >> right. >> corporations make money when prices go up. we're talking about medical device manufacturers, drug companies, health insurance companies, they all make money the higher the prices are. they have no incentive to work for the public...
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and endorse $1.4 trillion in cuts and adjustments to medicare, social security and other mandatory programs. the white house says it does not pass the test of balance and sticks the middle class with the bill. nancy pelosi will file the discharge position that we talked about yesterday, and that would force a vote for the bush tax cuts. the new "washington post" pugh research poll say 58% of those asked say it would be the republicans fault if we go over the fiscal cliff. and that shows all this back and forth isn't doing house gop any good. we're back after the break. alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. rich, chewy caramel rolled up in smooth
and endorse $1.4 trillion in cuts and adjustments to medicare, social security and other mandatory programs. the white house says it does not pass the test of balance and sticks the middle class with the bill. nancy pelosi will file the discharge position that we talked about yesterday, and that would force a vote for the bush tax cuts. the new "washington post" pugh research poll say 58% of those asked say it would be the republicans fault if we go over the fiscal cliff. and that...
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folks who say get government out of medicare, there is no logic to what they're saying. do youdo you buy it, but boehner is trying to harness and hold together that is fraught with inconsistencies. >> well, first of all i agree with sam. i think-- >> eliot: am i outvoted? i'm not sure that i like this. >> it's a distinction without a difference in the first two groups, and i don't think there is a third group left not with any power. do i think boehner is trying to rein in his caucus by sending a couple of rookie pitchers down to aa? if john boehner wanted control of his caucus he could discipline paul ryan whose crazy economic inside are ideas are the hill that they're willing to die on. if john boehner wants to discipline somebody, let him get paul ryan out of the negotiation. >> eliot: i agree with you. i don't think that's likely to happen. only a few seconds left. dick army leaving freedom works with a mere $8 million self republicans pay. >> he's getting paid $400,000 year for the next 20 years for not coming in to work. his salary was $500,000 a year. so he's gett
folks who say get government out of medicare, there is no logic to what they're saying. do youdo you buy it, but boehner is trying to harness and hold together that is fraught with inconsistencies. >> well, first of all i agree with sam. i think-- >> eliot: am i outvoted? i'm not sure that i like this. >> it's a distinction without a difference in the first two groups, and i don't think there is a third group left not with any power. do i think boehner is trying to rein in his...
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so how much, you want to cut medicare? you want to cut social security? john, admit it, you want to cut social security. no, no i want the president to say that. why would he say that? that's not his position. that's your position. you have not made no offer, no offer. i don't want you to get confused because the rest of tv will say he said-she said. no the republicans have made no offer, none. they're full of it. now the white house is fighting back. this is the thing that is flabbergasting. the white house communication director said, the president is not going to negotiate with himself. he has laid out his position, and the republicans have to come to the table. my reaction to that was-- >> flabbergasted. >> cenk: what? the white house not negotiating with itself? that's fantastic. do you remember what president obama said in 2010 because he had these negotiations with the republicans over the stimulus package. he said, this is the lesson he learned. now in retrospect i could have told barack obama in 2009 if you had a third of the package as tax cuts
so how much, you want to cut medicare? you want to cut social security? john, admit it, you want to cut social security. no, no i want the president to say that. why would he say that? that's not his position. that's your position. you have not made no offer, no offer. i don't want you to get confused because the rest of tv will say he said-she said. no the republicans have made no offer, none. they're full of it. now the white house is fighting back. this is the thing that is flabbergasting....
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we need to you hack away at social security and medicare more, so now boehner is between a rock and a hard place thee theoretically. it's atrue we don't want to have too much sympathy for john boehner. >> let's cry. >> and your tan looks great. it's a very unusual position for a speaker to be in. that is why the popularity and who is to blame the way people say who is to blame they say people are 53% to blame the president 27%. >> cenk: that number has not moved. people are saying obama is reasonable boehner and the republicans unreasonable. easy got to make a deal in that sense, too. they're going to do the grand bargain. both sides are really, really motivated. both sides are super motivated. now really good piece of news about elizabeth warren. >> she was named to the bank committee. two senators retiring in january announced they're retirements. they were on the bank committee. the bank spent a lot of money to see her not get elected spent a lot of lobbying power to see her not named the the committee. remember, $3 million were given to scott brown by bankers in that campaign, $24
we need to you hack away at social security and medicare more, so now boehner is between a rock and a hard place thee theoretically. it's atrue we don't want to have too much sympathy for john boehner. >> let's cry. >> and your tan looks great. it's a very unusual position for a speaker to be in. that is why the popularity and who is to blame the way people say who is to blame they say people are 53% to blame the president 27%. >> cenk: that number has not moved. people are...
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social security and medicare self-funded programs, the democrats are the ones that are the protectors of that. republicans know the only way to get it modified or changed is to have a democratic president begin that process. any time they've ever started with any of their clowns, it has been a disasterrer. they have to start the process. number two is they whine and cry about the deficit. basic civics 101. the president spends no money. the congress approves everything. they're the ones that created it. >> bill: sure. they're the ones who brought us to the fiscal cliff as we were talking yesterday because their super committee failed to do its job and now we have the sequestration hanging over our heads. >> they constantly create a situation, try to blame obama. >> bill: kevin, do you think we dare say look, hold the line and if you don't raise rates on the top 2%, we're not going to make a deal? >> absolutely. hold the line. i'll gladly pay more taxes than to have some rich son of a bitch pay more. >> bill: you and me both. that's all right. i'm willing to do it. i am a patriotic mil
social security and medicare self-funded programs, the democrats are the ones that are the protectors of that. republicans know the only way to get it modified or changed is to have a democratic president begin that process. any time they've ever started with any of their clowns, it has been a disasterrer. they have to start the process. number two is they whine and cry about the deficit. basic civics 101. the president spends no money. the congress approves everything. they're the ones that...
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street, destruction of medicare and medicaid. there are real issues here. having been a governor, i know that trade-offs are tough. things everyday exploding around the world that leave no shortage for exciting conversations. i want our viewer to understand why things have happened. at the end of the show, you know what has happened, why its happened and more importantly, what's going to happen tomorrow. [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." live on your radio and current tv. >> bill: 27 minutes now after the hour. >> this is "the full court press: the bill press show," love on your radio and current tv. >> 25 minutes after the hour now. did i mention it's a friday? all right. on the "full-court press," this friday, indeed, everybody we like to take a quick look back at some of our favorite sound bytes of the week and bring you our top 5, start at the bottom, work our way to the top. bob costas getting into a little hot water on sunday night football. >> number 5, in the coming days javon belcher's actions and possible connection to
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we love this debate on medicare. we'll win this debate on medicare. guess what. >> that's why i think what you have -- this is an important first cut of history, a forum like this. okay. so it wasn't the political choice on their end and look what happened. i think one of the good things about a choice when you had bill clinton pick al gore, when you had obama pick biden even when you had bush and cheney, they all, in their own way had their chemistry. but they also bring something to a ticket. or more important they do no harm. so they don't change the their at this. they don't change the essence of the message. so when cheney was picked, people might have said is he picking his daddy's friend or someone so old to help him. those are -- that could slap down a candidate but it doesn't change your whole thrust of your main selling point which was for romney, i could be a better steward of the economy than obama. so when -- you evaluate what happened yes so it was a great chemistry. >> bill: right. but politically -- again, it changed the focus of the c
we love this debate on medicare. we'll win this debate on medicare. guess what. >> that's why i think what you have -- this is an important first cut of history, a forum like this. okay. so it wasn't the political choice on their end and look what happened. i think one of the good things about a choice when you had bill clinton pick al gore, when you had obama pick biden even when you had bush and cheney, they all, in their own way had their chemistry. but they also bring something to a...
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dick durbin and others saying we're not going to raise the medicare age. >> stephanie: i think that's a bad idea. there is a lot of unintended stuff that's going to happen from that which is not -- it just defeats the purpose. >> totally. not only that but it is in its own way, in sort of the language that republicans use, it is raising rates on seniors because people 65 to 67 are going to have to go to the private market and get insurance. now sure, the government may not be paying for it. but -- so it might cut the cost. >> stephanie: they're going to raise the rates because those will be the youngest, healthiest people in medicare. >> it will raise the rates for them and people that should be on medicare will be detail end of the time -- their time on private insurance when rates would be the highest. >> stephanie: yeah. >> it is just -- it seems like every time they come up with something to soft counter the president's proposals it is something that will inevitably be balanced for the backs of working class americans. >> stephanie: they're essentially mother [ bleep ] >> they're
dick durbin and others saying we're not going to raise the medicare age. >> stephanie: i think that's a bad idea. there is a lot of unintended stuff that's going to happen from that which is not -- it just defeats the purpose. >> totally. not only that but it is in its own way, in sort of the language that republicans use, it is raising rates on seniors because people 65 to 67 are going to have to go to the private market and get insurance. now sure, the government may not be paying...
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they'll try to kill social security, medicare and everything they've always wanted to kill in the first place. about "the heavy hand of government". i want to have that conversation. let's talk about it. really. really! that you're gonna lay people off because now the government's going to help you fund your health care. really? i wanna be able to have those conversations. not just to be confrontational, but to understand what the other side is saying. and you know, i'd like to arm our viewers with the ability to argue with their conservative uncle joe over the dinner table. [ music ] >> chatting with you live at current.com/bill presscurrent.com/billpress this is "the bill press show" live on your radio and current tv sglfrnings all right. thirty-three minutes after the hour, wednesday moving right along on the "full-court press." taking your calls on the opportunity i will have tonight. say a quick hello to the leader of the free world on your behalf. what's a quick message you think you want -- you would like me to pass along on your behalf? we will get right back to your calls and y
they'll try to kill social security, medicare and everything they've always wanted to kill in the first place. about "the heavy hand of government". i want to have that conversation. let's talk about it. really. really! that you're gonna lay people off because now the government's going to help you fund your health care. really? i wanna be able to have those conversations. not just to be confrontational, but to understand what the other side is saying. and you know, i'd like to arm...
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financial regulation, iran getting a nuclear bomb, civil war in syria, fraud on wall street, destruction of medicare and medicaid. there are real issues here. having been a governor, i know that trade-offs are tough. things everyday exploding around the world that leave no shortage for exciting conversations. i want our viewer to understand why things have happened. at the end of the show, you know what has happened, why its happened and more importantly, what's going to happen tomorrow. (vo) now, it's your turn. (vo) connect with the young turks with cenk uygur. >> it's go time. >> cenk: if there's one thing we know about chris christie. he is against federal aid. he does not believe in handouts from the government. this is him speaking this year. >> government is now telling them stop dreaming, stop striving, we'll take care of you. we are turning into a paternalistic entitlement type society. >> cenk: it is outrageous, we don't need the stinking government. you feel you're entitled to things right? after superstorm sandy guess what he wanted money from? the federal government. he is entitled to s
financial regulation, iran getting a nuclear bomb, civil war in syria, fraud on wall street, destruction of medicare and medicaid. there are real issues here. having been a governor, i know that trade-offs are tough. things everyday exploding around the world that leave no shortage for exciting conversations. i want our viewer to understand why things have happened. at the end of the show, you know what has happened, why its happened and more importantly, what's going to happen tomorrow. (vo)...